hey all, just thinking (and yes it hurt) that i might fit a part time conversion to my cruiser. What do i need and do? I've got the free wheeling hubs, and thats it so what else?????? all reply's are much appriciated. cheers

u also need the cnetre plate for the transfer case

ive recently redone my new transfer case with it

its easy with basic mechanical knowledge

if u want me to explain how to do it let me know and ill gladly write u a novell


dave

hey guys just chasing some advice on a part time 4x4 kit.

been looking into getting this done, just to save some fuel and have 2x4

heard a few good thigns about them and a few bad things .

i found this one on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Toyota-Landcruis ... 2ea849ee6c


is this any good? and is this all i would need to completely install it?
thanks

mitch

So you want to save about 0.25ltrs/100km and have a truck doesn't handle as well as with full time 4WD on road. And you want to pay for it.

Interesting concept.

well that what i want to know . if its worth doing or not?

it would save more petrol than that surely?

and if i lock the hubs wouldnt it give me the same 4x4 performance?

I didnt really notice any difference in fuel consumption after fitting my part time kit. It does have slightly more power and handles much better ( understeer is scary ) It used to be awful on twisty dirt roads.

Do yourself a favour and disconnect your front driveshaft leave it on the ground, lock your centre diff and go for a drive. It will give you an idea of what to expect..

I did this once once and found the old 80 handled like a pig. However I have since upgraded the suspension from the early landcruiser lurch suspension of old and expect now if I did the same that the handling would be completely different and maybe fine. this is why I think everyones opinions are so different because just about everyones 80 is quite different anyway... So for you 80 it could be fine, try it... I love my front wheels dragging me around those roundabouts and it wet days the controlled four wheel drifting.... not quite,,, 4x4 for me is a better option....

Understeer is actually a safer handling setup for the "majority" of drivers. Thats why most everyday cars have more understeer from the factorys.

Anyway I prefer the full time on gravel road, havent noticed the differance on the black top.

so worth it or pass?

just after fuel economy really . and some fun in 2x4 gravel haha

Don't do it for fuel economy. Think about doing if you have bad backlash. You've got a pre-95 model, so front driveline backlash was more of an issue with the early 80's. Is yours a manual too? I part-timed my old 92 1FZ powered 80 because of the backlash issue. It also meant i could fit a mechanical locker in the front diff. But really for the money you can by later model CV's and drive flanges and just about eliminate that while keeping it AWD. I wouldn't do it again, and i certainly won't be doing it on my 97 now. Do a google search and you'll find hours worth of reading on the subject. In the end it's your choice.

I guess I'm the only one around here with a part-time kit. I do have a front auto-locker aswell so kind of need it. If you drive smoothly to the conditions and flow from corner to corner it doesnt make a difference if its AWD of RWD. Economy, pffft when your doing 10.3L/100 and weight 3+ tonne then your laughing all the way home already, that must just be me too

From most forum reports I've read the economy isnt worth doing it. My old standard used to get about 1L/100 better than my current 80, but not being the same car its hard to make a direct comparision. If your planning on a front auto locker then go ahead. Handling? It seems everyone has there own opinion and preferance.

I have never understood why people expect better fuel economy from doing this, the amount of load you remove is negligable because all you are doing is moving the shared load from both diffs to the rear diff. you still drive the front diff and axles, just they are not connected to anything. Other reasons I have heard is to reduce wear, I can see that on the CV's as even though they still turn there is no load but not much else, I remember my old BJ40 with manual hubs and it was a pain in the arse to keep getting in and out to engage/disengage the hubs, I dont think the part time kit is worth it if you are only trying to save fuel/wear though.

An auto locker is a good reason to do this I had not though of that.

Yeah I have heard that before, I dont see how having virtually no steering is "safer" Then again, I grew up on acreage, with 5 bush bashers from the age of 11. I much prefer hanging the tail out in a controlled slide. cant stand FWD cars.
I agree with different suspension setups having different outcomes. All I know is my mates in their 2.8 Hilux and 4.2 pootrol used to leave me for dead around the bends on the dirt road to Landcruiser Park. At 80k/h ( speed limit ) my cruiser would basically start understeering around the long sweeping bends, I could hardly change this no matter what input I added. Throttle on, throttle off etc etc. It was downright scary to the point I had to slow down. Hence being left behind ( BY A 2.8 DIESEL HILUX!! )
Last two trips up there, with the part time kit I could easily hold speed around the bends. If it did lose any traction it was from the bum stepping out slighlty in an easily controllable slide. turn into it and squeeze the throttle, no worries.

On the road I havent noticed much difference in handling. There is no more backlash, slightly more responsive, lighter steering. I wouldnt go back

I know what you mean, I prefer oversteer to understeer. I did say "majority" of drivers as I reckon there would be more out there who wouldn't know what to do if the arse end stepped out compared to those who do - no scientific basis on that comment, just purely my own humble opinion.