Hey Fellas,

Its time to get new tyres, old ones are falling apart rapidly. Crap brand, came with truck.

My choice is Cooper STT, but wanted to hear peoples thoughts on ProComp Xtreme Mud, Toyo Open Country MT, not interested in MTZ or MTR or KM2... Any other ones people can think of?

I am going for a 315/75/16, would like at minimum 60k kms from the tyre, and will be used mainly for touring tough tracks.

Cheers

I bought some second hand 315/75x16 maxxis somethings* which had apparently done 60,000k's of touring and still have a bit left in them.

*cant remember, not bighorns, will have to go and look.

Buckshots.
http://www.maxxis.com/AutomobileLight-T ... udder.aspx

If your a member on Outerlimits, there is plenty of info in the Tyre Topics...

I must ask, why not the MTZ or MTR? I also think trying to achieve 60 thousand K's from a tyre your expecting to work hard on tough tracks may also be a little difficult.

Apparently the Toyo's chip up quite badly, so i would be tossing up between the Pro Comps, MTZ and the new MTR, as the STT's historically loose lugs.

However i am interested in other peoples thoughts as i am in the same thought process at the moment

Yeah i was also wondering why you ruled out the bfg, mt's and goodyears, Do you know something we dont ?

don't think you could go past another set of coopers i've just got back from the kimberleys and last year did cape york on the same tyres over 60000kms still life in them and more importantly still no puntures bloody brillant.

I just have a thing against BFG with people in the past being brain washed by the quality of tyre that is no longer...
MTR and MTZ have been shown to have poor wear rates. Coopers are shown to loose lugs, our last set went on perfect and stayed on for 75k kms with a fair wad of tread left and no chippping or tearing (right pressures for right terrain), so I am keen for them again.

Tough touring tracks should easily see 60k with a good amount left on a decent tyre, rocks, gravel, corrugations, sand, mud. I'm not rock hopping so wont be burning rubber to move over obstacles.

Choice has been made, getting STT either this week or next, waiting for new springs to come first.

my newies shall be STT's as well. ive decided to go the coopers again too


dave

And yet I wouldn't wish Poopers on my worst enemy. Had a set of ST's that fell apart, mate had a set of STT's that fell apart and a heap of guys on LCOOL had sets that fell apart.

I must say though, they are good if you were doing a lap of the block on black top/soft roading. Very hard compound rubber that will go for 100,000km+ but you sacrifice grip, especially in the wet, at least that was my experience, and that of may of the guys who've used them that I know. It was the harder 4WDing that all of us saw the breaking up and falling apart of the tyres.

Depending on your proposed use for the Poopers would depend on your liking or not liking of them. Longevity on highway and soft roading they would be average IMO, compared with others I've used, but tend to fall apart when you do some real 4WDing.

Yeh but whats your idea of hard 4WD'ing? are you using a tyre that is basically an agressive AT for the purpose of bush bashing, going on tracks that don't exist, running through thick deep mud, or rock climbing. Its a persons expectation or lack there of which results in the dis-satisfaction of a tyre.

It's not hard to drive on heavily corrugated roads, but when your in a loaded truck, with tyres at 28psi and driving along at 80+ kph and they survive without issue then thats what I consider a good tyre. When others in your convey have the BFG's and the Desert Duelers and the like and they fall apart doing the same, then thats not a good tyre.

Its a touring tyre, to get me through the dessert, get me to the cape and back, get me on the long slow hard tracks. As for wet weather grip, you gotta drive to the conditions, your not on wet weather semi-slicks with stiff suspension, your in a wollowing barge with slippery tyres.

Besides, its not my daily driver, so don't have to put up with all that day to day crap

well i put my poopers through hell and back...literally....and some of the other wa members can testify to that...

while they chipped a bit. and the leading edges got a bit worn....the SHIT all over the other hardcore tyres i got....they outlasted my simex centipeedes, my MT Claws, And the bfgs i had. the 800 a pop claws i had tore lugs off like i was driving on a lathe...increddible... the centerpedes again....the lugs on the outsides of the tyres are GONE....i even had 1 set of 38" irok super swampers, they lookd a bit rough in the end as well......but a little chipping on the leading edges on the coopers, in my opinion for the work they had done is understandable to me...ahahaha

and i think i can class some of the things i did in them pretty farkn hard core....

but....keeping that in mind....ive heard a lot of bad things about them as well. but eveyrbody has their own story about their own tyres.

as south said, if it takes u to some pretty far out locations and back and doesnt fail....i personally dont see the problem.

problems with asking questions like this is eveyrbody is always going to have their own opinions about all their tyres. i spose the best you could do is just take ALL of it in and try to make an educated decision...ahaha

i was gonna try something different this time, but i think im just gonna stick to the known...lol

When are you going to get yours Mr Devil?
Can maybe get some coin off if we get 8 at the same time?

I have been priced $445 a pop 315/75/16 fitted and balanced.

if u give me a few days to get back onto my feet, ill get u a trade price...i can get tyres through work. i was thinking within a next week or 3

cheers
dave

Ok sweet as, I'm re-doing my suspension this weekend, so was aiming for the following to get tyres.

cheers

i've had cooper stt's for like 9 months. Pretty much all lugs are intact, with only a few small scratches and chips. Highly recommend them. Coopers went through a bad stage and had to have heaps of tyres recalled, but it seems they have gotten over that. i also take mine out to rocky tracks like every 2 weeks and put them through hell. Will most likely be getting them again next time.

-Brett